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SESSION PAPERS FOR 9TH NOVEMBER 2017
sub-committee: Worship and Discipleship
(1)Matters arising from Minute of 5th
August and Session Meeting of 27th August:
of Paintings etc Ruth and Simon’s work had been much appreciated. The comment
at last session was that we needed to make more of the artist’s work – perhaps
with the artist explaining their painting and highlighting features of it.
Trudi had followed this through at the services she led in September. Simon
commented that Multi-media facilities would make this so much easier – the
artist could produce a much smaller work which could be enlarged on the screen.
Trudi hopes to have the
Sunday School produce a nativity scene to be displayed in Ceres Vestibule.
Prayer Tree: Messy Church issues. Keeping the
children focused at prayer-time is something we are addressing.
Ceres use of the prayer
tree – we noted the comments made at the
session meeting that more thought needed to be put into how we presented this.
Again, Trudi had implemented some of the suggestions in September.
Rachel suggested that there be a hymn after
the offering, (when prayers are gathered) Those who wish can hang their prayer
at the end. Use of the prayer tree should not be over-done as it loses its
impact if it becomes too mundane. We are experimenting with different ways.
Use of Drama. There was a call for flexibility
of approach…..some perhaps setting the story in modern time……It was suggested
that at services such as baptisms where there are more people with little
knowledge of the Bible, that the drama should simply tell the story (which may
well not be known to many there) rather than re-interpret it. .
We had a variety of views
on this – nothing is written in stone. Again, it is good to try different
issue – necessary to emphasise (in writing on order of service) that no photos
are to be taken when children are in church and to highlight this from the
time before service begins: This was tried for the first time at the United
Service on 29th October and led by Rachel McGregor. It is hoped to
repeat this on a monthly basis.
service Feedback. Good day – a lovely
service. To be repeated. (Re squabbling dogs - Minister to be provided with
service – we note that Harvest time is not suitable for this to happen on a
local farm. However – suggested that
field behind Sandy Mitchell’s in Ceres (Glebe land) could be used for Harvest
in mid/late October next year.. Let us keep this idea alive.
(viii) Back to Church Sundays – worth doing
again. There were a few people who came to the Ceres and Springfield services who
had not been for a while.
Ceres Sunday service as more family friendly. A play mat has been purchased –
this has been laid at the front of the Church where mothers can sit with babies
or small children.
Long Tables – it was pointed out that very uncomfortable with craning necks
etc. Suggest that if these have to be retained that they be used only once a
Group. The Weaving Worship course has been over-subscribed. We will be informed
when another course is made available.
(2)Sunday Night /Thursday morning
Reflective –has recommenced.
(3)Christmas Programme of services,
especially issue of Christmas Eve services.
(See separate document) Jim Campbell has on his computer an Advent
prayer booklet he wrote some years ago. It was suggested this be printed
professionally and distributed for Advent.
Simon is happy to provide one or two illustrations. Jim will investigate
printing costs with Minuteman Press in Falkirk.
Actions: Approval required for Christmas schedule of
Jim to contact Minuteman Press
in Falkirk re Advent Booklet.
Simon to provide a few illustrations.
Children and Families Worker Report – Kirk
Session: 14th August 2017
First of all, may I thank all
who were involved in any way with the Table at the Games Day. It was appreciated that a community presence
Messy Church is doing well.
Messy Church is not about
getting more people into the church services on a Sunday morning. Instead it is about meeting people where they
are. It has the following values:
Christ-centredness. Everything we do flows from the good news of
Jesus Christ. All the activities, fun
and sharing a meal bring together the example of Jesus as he ate, talked and
shared with people. Each month a Bible
Story is chosen for the theme.
All-Age. It celebrates all ages together – not just
children, but children mixing with grandchildren, parents spending time
together, Dads and children having an afternoon together, Mums having time to
share and explore.
Hospitality. Sharing a meal together is an integral part of Messy
Church. For many families it is the only
time they sit down together around a table.
It resonates with what Jesus did and the many, many times he sat down to
eat with people.
Creativity. The Creativity time is about exploring the Bible Story and
responding to it. Each person will
respond to stories differently and a choice of activities enables everyone to
Celebration. This is where we unpack the story – and in a very
reflective way everyone is drawn into a time of worship and prayer.
Sunday School was doing well
before the summer. Our main challenge
for when the church rebuilding starts is where and when we will meet.
I will be working with Jim on
the new Drop-In Café in Springfield. It’s
great to have a mum from Messy Church helping at the first one.
Last term Jim and I had a lot
of involvement with all three primary schools, and we already have meetings set
up for two of the schools when terms starts again.
I’ve been involved in other regular
work, such as pastoral visiting, including hospital, baptismal and general
I’m involved with services and
working with Jim in developing family friendly worship, particularly in Ceres.
I’m also continuing to be part
of the group that meets as a Cluster.
Future happenings include
another Pet Service on Sunday 20th August and Woodland Church on
Sunday 22nd October.
On a personal note, I am still
exploring the possibility of going forward for Ministry. As part of this exploration I am attached to
the Howe of Fife and as such, have been attending church there occasionally. I am aiming towards the next stage in this
exploration, which is a conference at the end of October / beginning of
November. I appreciate all your support
and would ask for your prayers as I continue to explore if ministry is for
Finally, may I thank everyone
for their involvement, support and prayers for the ongoing children and family
work in the parish.
FABRIC AND FINANCE TEAM MEETING
BUILDING SUB COMMITEE
Milne (Chair), Robin Bennett, Rachel McGregor, Fiona Gray, Ella Brown, Trish
Duff, David Inglis, Simon Weller, Sarah Wood and Gordon Barclay (CoS)
Hoggan, Anne Lumsden and Colin Johnson
meeting started with a prayer.
1. Option Paper on
Barclay was welcomed to the meeting by Peter Milne and went on to outline the
option paper he had prepared and which had been distributed prior to the
meeting. There was a discussion about
the different options and there was general agreement that a 20/25-year
repairing lease with a break after year three or four was the favoured option
of the BSC. There would need to be
discussion on the level of nominal rent for the hall and the church would
require to insure the building as they continued to own the hall with the
community organisation responsible for the public liability insurance. It was recognised that the car park would
be included in the lease. It may be that
the church would wish, at a future date, within the lifetime of the lease, to
have the option to sell a part of the car park as a building site. The matter will be considered at the
Congregational Board on 26th October 2017 when the chair of the Hall
Steering Group will be present.
2. Update on
Springfield Sale of Land
Barclay updated the meeting on the interest to date in the land for sale in
Springfield. There had been two expressions
of interest in the plots but both interests were far short of the advertised
price. After some discussion it was
agreed that there was some time to let the land stay on the market. It was also agreed that a further valuation,
by a different surveyor, would confirm if the price that the land was on the
market at was correct or not. Gordon
Barclay agreed to sound out the costs of a further survey.
3. Update on Ceres –
Draft Appeal Letter
Wood had circulated the first draft of the appeal letter for comment. There was general agreement that an appeal
should be lodged with the General Trustees but everyone was aware of the risks
of doing so. Gordon Barclay suggested
that we sought clarification as to the status of CARTA’s recommendation in view
of the approval of the Fabric and Finance Committee at its meeting on 4th
July 2017. The letter was discussed
and there was general agreement that the ultra vires argument / terms of
reference points should be taken out of the letter. Sarah Wood requested comments by the evening
of Thursday 19th October 2017.
A further draft of the letter will be sent to Peter Milne and Jim Campbell
for final approval.
4. Kemback Church –
Campbell outlined the need for a toilet in the church. At the present time there was an outside
toilet that was unsuitable for any person with a physical disability. The problem was becoming more urgent as an
increasing number of weddings were taking place in Kemback Church. It was agreed to seek approval from the
Congregational Board at its meeting on 26th October 2017 to retain
Tom Morton to come up with some suggestions as to how a toilet could be built
in the current vestry and to explore the possibility of a disabled access for
5. Finance Report for
the Springfield Project
Wood circulated a schedule detailing the costs and likely funding sources of
the Springfield Project. The schedule
was gone through with Sarah Wood explaining each of the lines of the
schedule. It was agreed that Sarah Wood
should proceed to make applications to the three trusts named in the schedule.
6. Finance Report to
end of September 2017
Wood circulated a copy of the financial statement to the end of September
2017. The statement highlighted the
tightness of the financial position of CKS.
It was acknowledged that in the current year there had been some
exceptional expenditure in relation to the change of manses and the building
7. Draw from Reserves
on from the discussion about the financial statement Sarah Wood sought approval
to seek Congregational Board approval to seek a draw from the reserves of
approximately £10,000. The BSC
supported that proposal.
8. Stewardship in 2018
Wood and Ella Brown had attended a Church of Scotland seminar on Finance and
Stewardship where the importance of Stewardship was stressed. It was agreed that the matter would be
raised with the Kirk Session.
9. Building Maintenance
was a general discussion about the need for a three-year maintenance plan for
the three churches. It was agreed that
Sarah Wood would convene a meeting with the three building convenors at the
beginning of December 2017 to start constructing a building maintenance plan
for 2018 to 2021.
Feedbank on H and S guidance
the absence of Colin Johnson, who had given his apologies for the meeting, it
was agreed that this matter be carried over to the next meeting.
11. Draft Request for
Release of Funds from Springfield Bequest
Wood circulated a schedule detailing the proposed draft from Springfield
Bequest for revenue expenditure. The
schedule had been compiled after discussion with Jim Campbell on the
details. It was agreed that the
schedule should be presented to the Congregational Board on 26th
October 2017 for approval.
12. Draft Budget for
Wood circulated a schedule outlining the proposed 2018 budget for 2018. To ensure that the budget is balanced the
building budget is reduced from the previous years budget. It was agreed that the schedule should be
presented to the Congregational Board on 26th October 2017 for approval
and then onward transmission to Presbytery.
and Outreach Sub-Committee. Session Report for 9th November 2017
Sundays – feedback. Attendance varied – made in Ceres over £280. Springfield
version in September was a great success with lots of polite and enthusiastic
children. £34 raised. Neither were intended primarily as fund-raisers but
actually raised a good amount.
Springfield money – Messy
Church. Ceres – money to soup /tea fund.
Lunch at Ceres Lovely time together. Simple lunch with local produce. A strong
sense of community and fellowship. Funds split between Food Bank and Church -
£134 total. Food gifts given to Food bank. Good to support Foodbank rather than
traditional idea of fruit etc that no-one really wants.
to Church Sunday – feedback. About eight people at Ceres. Simon’s notice-board
was excellent – illustrating all our activities. Three at Springfield – real
buzzy atmosphere. None at Kemback.
Guild - doing well, continues to be Church for some
Possibility of Moody
& Sanky evening at Kemback? “Bringing in the Sheaves” was much appreciated
at Kemback Harvest!
Drop-in Café - Working well – where people can be comfortable on the edge of
the church. (Like several other initiatives in our parish)
Hall –Burns Supper in January 2018 tbc. Short bowls on Tuesdays - small numbers
at the moment. Bowls and Blether still continues on Fridays. Whist evenings
continue 3rd Friday of the month.
2018 – thoughts/suggestions from worship sub-committee. Ongoing conversation. A service naming local farms?
(viii) Communication – colour copier.
Progress. Wait until re-doing of the church?
Days. The house really lends itself to this. The last one was a great success. People found their own place
in the day whether drawing, reflecting, walking in the garden etc.
–.. Based around periods of silence, music, Biblical and other readings. Box
pews used for various reflective activities. .Team of nine work together with
great enthusiasm and commitment in order to produce this. Tea and coffee facilities are in vestry and at
end. Post-cards have been printed.
(3)Christmas 2017 – see timetable on
Lantern workshop in Session House followed by Lantern walk in Craighall
Den. The group felt that this could be really attractive to the community.
Other fellowship/Outreach opportunities over Christmas period?
Sunday 3rd December: 1st
09.45. Ceres 11.15
Saturday 9th December (Provisional) 4pm: Lantern making
workshop in Ceres Session Hall followed by lantern walk in Craighall Den.
Sunday 10 th December: 2nd
09.45, Ceres 11.15am
Cluster Carol Service in Cupar Old.
Friday 15th Youth Club Nativity?
Sunday 17th December: 3rd
– All Age Christmas Celebration. Thursday
7pm: Ceres School and Community Carol Service in
Sunday 24th December: 4th
in Advent/Christmas Eve.
Morning Service at Springfield (short) Change from advertised service to avoid
Ceres having three services in 24 hours!
Springfield Family Service with Baptism
9pm (Led by
Simon and elders): Ceres Carol Service. This had been very popular –
11.30pm: Kemback Watchnight
Monday 25th December:
27th December: Sanctuary 12noon and 6.30pm